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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Becky — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:32:32 -0000

I sort of feel stuck between a rock and a hard place in this election, but I keep forgetting there are 15 candidates for president on the Colorado ballot.

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Barbara AKA Alex's Mom — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:11:27 -0000

First I'll start with a disclaimer - nothing I say reflects Alex's point of view - he's a big boy and has a mind of his own although his heart belongs to the Lord! PTL! As we look at this political race I think God calls us to look at the moral issues - Obama claims to have accepted Christ at some point but the same question should be asked of him as we ask of any proclaimed Christian - where is the fruit? and does that fruit glorify Christ? McCain has made no such proclamation I can see but will I vote for someone simply because they say they are a Christian? I think not. It's not so much important I say who I"m voting for as I challenge folks to read the issues - just because a candidate says he will do thus and so does not make it happen - we still have a liberal-based Congress. I think the bottom line is educate yourself about the facts - and there's more on the ballot in California than the presidential candidates. Did anyone realize that the California Teacher's Association donated more than $125,000 to defeat proposition 8? They just can't wait to teach our kids that being gay is OK - we are to be the salt of the earth meant to spice things up! And we are called to be "in" the world and not "of" the world. Is there enough evidence in our lives that we could be convicted if Christianity were agains the law? That's what we should concerned about. Thankfully we still have a say and the ability to vote our conscience!

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Louisa — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:13:24 -0000

Great Alex can I bring it by anytime Wed. or Thur. this Sunday would be the last chance to run it. I would have gotten it to you sooner which leads to your question where have I been? My husband was in a critical motorcycle accident on our 24th Wedding Anniversary Sept. 1st. He was on a breathing machine for 15 days ICU for 18 then when he came out of it he didn't know any of us so I lived at the hospital day and night for a month . The Lord has healed Paul. God told me along He would heal Him I belived God and He did. I am so blessed! He had the right of way on HWY 79 a woman pulled on to the HWY he T-boned her going 50MPH. He died God asked Him if he wanted to come back? He has no paralysis and remembers his life now. His back is broken in 3 places, pelvic wrist & back have titanium plates, but full range of motion. Another radical God story. Praise His Name he is our True Love everything we want is in Him!

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

alex — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:31:13 -0000

Oh yeah and Louisa, you can always drop that kind of stuff by. I'll run it all by John and see if we can promo it. Where have you been by the way?

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

James McLean — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:24:58 -0000

apparently Jesse didn't read the above comments before him.

By the way i love Louisa, even though we have never met, she is my sister in Christ. That was all i was trying to say is that as Christians our first allegiance is to Jesus. Governments will fail us, should we still vote and all that, sure. Just know that at the end of the day the Lord will have his way.

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

alex — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:08:36 -0000

Hey Heather thanks for the love. Jesse, I totally respect your views, and this is a place to converse. I'm not sure which question you're referring to? Is it the "who should I vote for?". If so, let me clarify. I'm still undecided, and all I'm looking for is some honest and open discussion on the upcoming election.

One area I seriously disagree with you on is the "if you value life either don't vote or vote for McCain". That's such an absolute statement - it shuts down conversation. I want people to process through this, I want to process through this. I want to remain understanding & compassionate, and continually learning.

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

heather — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:41:58 -0000

Hey now, be nice...Thats my pastor and he is a very good man.

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Jesse — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:27:08 -0000

As a Christian, it's actually very easy. Obama is the most radical supporter of Abortion that the American political system has ever seen. He want's the late term ban lifted, wants government funds to pay for abortions, etc. If you value life, either don't vote or vote for McCain.

It's kinda disturbing that a pastor even has to ask this question...

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Louisa — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:13:59 -0000

James thank you for putting it all into it's proper perspective. I agree with that 100%. I love our Lord and he alone is worthy! Praise you Jesus, thank you Lord and may all honor and glory be yours!

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

James McLean — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:17:01 -0000

the only one who is worthy and the only one who i trust my life with is Jesus Christ.

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Louisa — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:58:54 -0000

Hi Alex, Louisa here I would love to come by and give you material ( a C.D. and some flyers ) on The Call that would be great to play next Sunday as The Call is Nov. 1st at Qualcom Stadium. Would that be ok? Sorry I had your number but no longer do so I hope it's ok to ask in this forum.

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Louisa — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:52:05 -0000

It's not about focusing on one issue, but as I said before Life is the most important issue and if your not willing to vote for that than I personally cannot trust you with my life. Whenever we choose life over death I believe that is the right choice. As far as adoption, mentoring, and volunteer work I have done what God has called me to do ( and if not thank God I have forgiveness ) and voting for Life I have been called to do.

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

WorshipCity — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:29:36 -0000

On that one I was split! SERIOUSLY! This is so hard.

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

WorshipCity — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:16:24 -0000

I've been to two of these already but I'll do one more! I keep thinking one of them will tell me to vote for Obama but they don't :)
It's funny how different my political views are from my online friends and my local friends. Haha

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

alex — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:56:37 -0000

I think it's easy to get passionate and focus on one issue, I don't fault anyone for that. Life experiences & your culture tend to determine that. I do agree that one candidate will not put an end to abortion - like I said, I think if they're lucky, they'll be able to follow through with about 1/4 of what they're promising...

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

James McLean — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:26:18 -0000

and we are off....so if i just vote for the right person then all abortions will stop? its that simple?
seems like we thought that was going to be the case with W.
anyone can cast a ballot and put the weight on a leader. if we really care about babies being killed then we would do something more than just vote. how about volunteering for a girl's home? adopting a child? mentoring a teen?
the government is not going to solve all of our problems we must act and affect change against the things that disturb us.

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Louisa — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:21:53 -0000

If you are for abortion than Obama is your man. This may seem harsh, but for me if you are not willing to protect the life of an innocent child that I do not trust you to protect Me or anyone else. The job of the President is to protect us from outside harm per The U.S. Constitution.

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Peter — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:13:57 -0000

Hear hear! Kudos to you alex. I would consider myself politically aware to a certain point . I am not passionate about it nor am I fervant on any one issue. As a Christian I have come to the understanding that Christianity is not/should not be a Political Movement. But we must understand that there are "Political Implications" for being a Christian. Thus as alex mentioned, our effort to produce a healthy christianity would be more resounding on the Grassroots level as opposed to just voting our social agenda. Not say voting is not important, because it is! Very much so, but we have to ask ourselves, what are we doing to bring about real change after we vote (not matter who is elected)? Real, authentic, selfless change.
For the whole of humanity, not just our own personal freedoms.

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

alex — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:55:12 -0000

Heather, you bring up a great point! Maybe post worthy. Like I said, I'm not a political deep thinker type. I consider myself a more 'to the point' person - give me practicality.

Anyway, I think Christians are the worst at politics. We get our nose in so many places where we end up embarrassing the name and purpose of Jesus Christ. I know a lot of people disagree with me, but standing on a corner condemning gays, abortion, prayer in school, etc. is not my idea of what Christ would do, or is doing these days. I think Christ is more concerned about meeting people's needs, showing compassion, showing them the beauty of a life redeemed by his love...

And then we demonize certain people for their political views. And then we demonize certain groups for their moral views.
And then we draw our lines in the sand and separate from the 'world', and before you know it we've become completely ineffective as representatives of the God who is love.

You know the old adage, 'don't talk about religion or politics'... how dumb & backwards is that? Let's talk about life, and the giver of life.

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

heather — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:42:15 -0000

Alex you rock!! you are a brave guy to say who you want to vote for...I've gotten the impression that its "unchristian" like to vote for Obama..Which is who I am going to vote for, AND I love Jesus!

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

billy akerman — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:23:57 -0000

As i knew it wold say...John McCain
BTW...I'm a libertarian

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Vince — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:10:47 -0000

that test was weak. It made it sound like there are only two choices.

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

bobby — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:08:29 -0000

I hate to say it, but the frustrating part to me is it doesn't REALLY matter who you vote for. California's electoral votes will all go to Obama. I know, kinda cynical. But true. I'll still vote for McCain though, just feels like I'm throwing a vote away, ya know?

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

Becky — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:32:16 -0000

That test was good - thanks for posting it. I still find myself very confused about whom to vote for. I agree with some of each candidate's positions but all of neither.

Re: Who Should I Vote For?

pete — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:45:51 -0000

HA! I had been meaning to check out the test as a number of people I know had referenced it...

According to the "test" I fall in the Obama camp -- BUT JUST BARELY! I pretty much walk the middle line between these 2 candidates.

However, I have other reservations that would give me serious pause to consider either McCain or Obama.